Based on recent posts I don't think Volcom7114 is going to care about a $1k bed heaterjimc wrote:Good luck on the bed heater. One that big draws major power and cost big money. Just iff the top if my head that size will draw somewhere between 4000-6000 watts. It will have to run 240vac. Then again the $1k youll prob pay for the heater will be nothing compared to the elec bill..lol
Smoothieboard
Re: Smoothieboard
Custom 3D printing for you or your business -- quote [at] pingring.org
Re: Smoothieboard
You could try these guys.Volcom7114 wrote: So I do need some help with something and that is I need a bed heater that's um well 4' x 4'...so is there anyone who custom makes them? Or what could some options be??
http://www.egpglass.com/products/thermi ... at-plates/
to go a different way you could get a piece of 1" aluminum plate and have holes drilled thru every inch or so
then plum the whole thing through a small boiler . (steam heat for a house)
-
- Posts: 53
- Joined: Fri Feb 13, 2015 3:40 am
Re: Smoothieboard
jimc wrote:Good luck on the bed heater. One that big draws major power and cost big money. Just iff the top if my head that size will draw somewhere between 4000-6000 watts. It will have to run 240vac. Then again the $1k youll prob pay for the heater will be nothing compared to the elec bill..lol
I'm fine with whatever the cost is and as for electric wellll most people would drop dead if they seen my electric bill each month as it is..

Anyway ( I get side tracked easy lol) I figured it would be a juice sucker but I went through some other heating options and can't really find anything that will be accurate.. Now if you or anyone else has any ideas please let me know my time for research on the computer is limited sadly and you all have been into an around the whole world of 3D printing longer than I have

As far as power supplies go I can make one not a problem but your right that's some major wattage.. I have a soldering work station that's also able to reflow so I'm pretty good there.. Or should I go this route with maybe running two bed heaters?? It's not something that I have to get done and ordered yesterday but it's not far off either..
Some days I just wanna bang my head off the wall lol

On a better note tho MG shipped out my V4 dual extruder set up so that will be exciting to tinker with

-
- Posts: 53
- Joined: Fri Feb 13, 2015 3:40 am
Re: Smoothieboard
Slipshine wrote:You could try these guys.Volcom7114 wrote: So I do need some help with something and that is I need a bed heater that's um well 4' x 4'...so is there anyone who custom makes them? Or what could some options be??
http://www.egpglass.com/products/thermi ... at-plates/
to go a different way you could get a piece of 1" aluminum plate and have holes drilled thru every inch or so
then plum the whole thing through a small boiler . (steam heat for a house)
Lol that sounds like fun and I do have the aluminum flat sheet but it would be hard to control the temperature and as it moved throught the aluminum it would have hot and cold spots.. :/
Now It does give me the idea of casting aluminum around copper pipe but it would weigh a lot more than I want to play with also hmmm lol
By the way thanks for the link! I really do appreciate all the help!
-
- Posts: 53
- Joined: Fri Feb 13, 2015 3:40 am
Re: Smoothieboard
insta wrote:Based on recent posts I don't think Volcom7114 is going to care about a $1k bed heaterjimc wrote:Good luck on the bed heater. One that big draws major power and cost big money. Just iff the top if my head that size will draw somewhere between 4000-6000 watts. It will have to run 240vac. Then again the $1k youll prob pay for the heater will be nothing compared to the elec bill..lol
To be truthful I really was thinking along the lines of 2 grand or more for a bed heater so anything saved is great and means I can check out more awesome STUFF! Lol
whats funny is my home owners insurance agent has a value set on my shop at 3 times what I paid for my house and I paid less for the stuff than I did for my house. Lol they are crazy!
Re: Smoothieboard
A Google search of "silicone heater" turns up a couple possibilities...
Maybe take a look at Watlow or Omega (for example: http://www.omega.com/pptst/SRFR_SRFG.html ). The Omega ones go up to 12x48 inches, and on that page it looks like the 12x24 are in stock. So to go 4' x 4', you'd need four of the former or 8 of the latter (the latter at $112-ish list per). So I'm guessing you could do for under $1000 total --- you'd have to do some "combiner box" wiring to feed the whole set, but that's minimal compared to the cost of the heaters. The only thing I didn't look at was voltage and amperage.
You can get little 1/8 DIN temperature controllers on Amazon for about 20 bucks, and another 20 or 30 for a big solid-state relay on a heat sink. Sensors (RTD, thermocouple) also available there.
Now, where to put the temperature SENSOR for best control?
Dale
Maybe take a look at Watlow or Omega (for example: http://www.omega.com/pptst/SRFR_SRFG.html ). The Omega ones go up to 12x48 inches, and on that page it looks like the 12x24 are in stock. So to go 4' x 4', you'd need four of the former or 8 of the latter (the latter at $112-ish list per). So I'm guessing you could do for under $1000 total --- you'd have to do some "combiner box" wiring to feed the whole set, but that's minimal compared to the cost of the heaters. The only thing I didn't look at was voltage and amperage.
You can get little 1/8 DIN temperature controllers on Amazon for about 20 bucks, and another 20 or 30 for a big solid-state relay on a heat sink. Sensors (RTD, thermocouple) also available there.
Now, where to put the temperature SENSOR for best control?
Dale
-
- Posts: 53
- Joined: Fri Feb 13, 2015 3:40 am
Re: Smoothieboard
Dale Reed wrote:A Google search of "silicone heater" turns up a couple possibilities...
Maybe take a look at Watlow or Omega (for example: http://www.omega.com/pptst/SRFR_SRFG.html ). The Omega ones go up to 12x48 inches, and on that page it looks like the 12x24 are in stock. So to go 4' x 4', you'd need four of the former or 8 of the latter (the latter at $112-ish list per). So I'm guessing you could do for under $1000 total --- you'd have to do some "combiner box" wiring to feed the whole set, but that's minimal compared to the cost of the heaters. The only thing I didn't look at was voltage and amperage.
You can get little 1/8 DIN temperature controllers on Amazon for about 20 bucks, and another 20 or 30 for a big solid-state relay on a heat sink. Sensors (RTD, thermocouple) also available there.
Now, where to put the temperature SENSOR for best control?
Dale
Dale Thanks a ton man! I think i have a few DIN's around here some where and I have a box of solid-state relays of different flavors but I definitely think that's a damn good idea! I'll get on their site now and check it out...
Much Thanks guys! when I have my next conference call I'm going to ask if I can share this build at least on this forum. I'm not breaking new ground with what I'm doing at all just my own twist to it..Oh and a few inches bigger than the norm

Re: Smoothieboard
what the hell do you do for a living
how is money spraying out of every orifice
edit: do you want to adopt a 29 year old fat bald software developer
how is money spraying out of every orifice
edit: do you want to adopt a 29 year old fat bald software developer
Custom 3D printing for you or your business -- quote [at] pingring.org
-
- Posts: 53
- Joined: Fri Feb 13, 2015 3:40 am
Re: Smoothieboard
insta wrote:what the hell do you do for a living
how is money spraying out of every orifice
edit: do you want to adopt a 29 year old fat bald software developer
LMAO!!


Um adopt well not right now lol we are looking to add a master bedroom onto our house as it is so I lack room.. Haha

I'm not rich I just don't go anywhere and I save my pennies lol

I do have nerve damage to both legs and some short term memory loss so I write a lot of notes lol but I'm here that's what counts and I don't want pitty from anyone it's called life and could have been much worse just be positive and when you think you have it bad just think of those who have it much worse..

Dennis aka Big D

Re: Smoothieboard
Great attitude Dennis.....you'll live to be a hundred, thinking like that! 
